Comments on: Word of the Day: Outtro http://joehankin.com/blog/2006/12/word-of-the-day-outtro/ Now 30% Less Fun! Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:19:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Joe http://joehankin.com/blog/2006/12/word-of-the-day-outtro/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Joe Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:23:00 +0000 http://joehankin.com/blog/?p=24#comment-15 "Middle eight" is common -- it comes from the days of 32-bar songs like "I Got Rhythm." Lots of people still use it (including Morrissey, in the lyrics of "Tomorrow") despite the fact that the modern bridge isn't bound by those constraints. "Normal" is a relative term.<br/><br/>Don't get me wrong, "coda" has its place, but it's highly specifically defined -- "outtro" is an umbrella term that I find much more useful. I'd say the fact that you use it for all those various purposes makes you more of a serious musician, not less so -- but not, y'know, one of those Carnegie Hall types. “Middle eight” is common — it comes from the days of 32-bar songs like “I Got Rhythm.” Lots of people still use it (including Morrissey, in the lyrics of “Tomorrow”) despite the fact that the modern bridge isn’t bound by those constraints. “Normal” is a relative term.

Don’t get me wrong, “coda” has its place, but it’s highly specifically defined — “outtro” is an umbrella term that I find much more useful. I’d say the fact that you use it for all those various purposes makes you more of a serious musician, not less so — but not, y’know, one of those Carnegie Hall types.

]]> By: god http://joehankin.com/blog/2006/12/word-of-the-day-outtro/comment-page-1/#comment-14 god Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:09:00 +0000 http://joehankin.com/blog/?p=24#comment-14 not to drop names or nothin', but when i played guitar w/ billy corgan, he called the bridge a "middle eight", referring to the fact that it came in the middle and was usually eight measures. he also said it was "normal" for the middle eight to be in a completely different key from the rest of the song. <br/><br/>do YOU, being a SERIOUS musician, use "coda" and "fine"? and don't classical musicians write sectionally too? although i think theirs is more like... focused to building to a climax; obviously, they have no use for verse/chorus/verse/bridge/chorus/outtro or whatever.<br/><br/>i use "outtro", and i use it similarly when referring to something completely different from the song, or when it's just a repeated measure. does this mean i'm not serious??!!?! fuck fuck fuck not to drop names or nothin’, but when i played guitar w/ billy corgan, he called the bridge a “middle eight”, referring to the fact that it came in the middle and was usually eight measures. he also said it was “normal” for the middle eight to be in a completely different key from the rest of the song.

do YOU, being a SERIOUS musician, use “coda” and “fine”? and don’t classical musicians write sectionally too? although i think theirs is more like… focused to building to a climax; obviously, they have no use for verse/chorus/verse/bridge/chorus/outtro or whatever.

i use “outtro”, and i use it similarly when referring to something completely different from the song, or when it’s just a repeated measure. does this mean i’m not serious??!!?! fuck fuck fuck

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